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Unholy Disaster
12-24-2014, 06:39 AM
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Unholy Disaster
This is probably the worst investment I've made in my simulator since I started simming more than 15 years ago.

I was a very early Kickstarter backer and plunked down my $550 with delight, even knowing that Iris Dynamics couldn't possible deliver in the May, 2014 they initially estimated. My yoke finally arrived yesterday, just a couple of hours after receiving the backer message that warned they'd had all kinds of manufacturing issues. I therefor opened the box with a mixture of great anticipation and significant trepidation.

Trepidation won the day.

The cosmetics of the yoke are terrible. My unit looks like something assembled by a cranky kindergartner -- before their nap. The yoke handle casting looks terrible. There are hideous, uneven seams, and surface defects everywhere. The trim switches fit poorly and are noticeably loose. Most of other switches look like manufacturing line seconds and the switch mounts to the ugly yoke surface look like they have some kind of disease. The surface finish of the case has scratches on the top and minor crackling of the finish. I'm seriously wondering if they accidentally shipped me their very first prototype unit instead of an early customer unit.

The unit shipped with exactly one sheet of documentation, a glossy (and damaged) two-sided "Quick Start" guide.

After tracking down an AC cord actually long enough to reach an outlet (seriously, guys? Of what possible use is a 1m long AC cord?), I plugged the unit in for a quick bench-test before starting to integrate it into my simulator. It powered up normally, and operated as documented in the quick-start guide. I noticed, though, that the elevator shaft binded up when pulling the yoke back to the full "nose up" position. This occurs at roughly 60% of travel to the rearmost position. It's not subtle -- the shaft basically sticks and needs an extra tug to get it moving rearward again.

I carted the yoke downstairs to my simulator and started the painful process of integrating it into my sim (the pain is from the complexity of my sim setup, not the yoke itself). About an hour later, I powered everything up to give it a try.

I'll say this: the unit is detected as a yoke. That's the last and only positive thing I have to say.

I'm running P3D v2.4, with all the usual nearly-mandatory add-ons for a serious simmer, mostly notably, FSUIPC. Every serious simulator in the FSX/P3D world uses FSUIPC. I knew this was going to be part of my integration pain, because as I recall, FSUIPC doesn't support force-feedback of any sort. That meant I was going to have to disconnect my elevator and aileron axes from calibration and axis assignments from FSUIPC and let P3D handle the yoke axes. Fortunately, that's not a big deal and didn't take too long to accomplish.

My first flight was with the Carenado Cessna C-337 ("Skymaster"), a plane in which I've logged many, many hours. Taxi and takeoff roll were normal, but when I rotated with the usual amount of yoke travel required, nothing happened. I pulled back more. Nothing. Finally, at just short of full elevator deflection, the nose eased up. After assuming a normal climb attitude and retracting the gear, the yoke sort-of started to behave normally. I say "sort of" because there was a noticeable lag between yoke movements and aircraft reaction to it -- much more so than with my old Saitek yoke. Yoke forces seemed OK.

Finally, the moment of truth: I set a target altitude and heading into my autopilot and engaged it. The airplane began to turn towards the target heading -- and nothing at all happened with the yoke. The plane settled into a roughly standard-rate turn and the yoke never moved. The airplane reached the assigned heading and the wings leveled -- and the yoke never moved.

After a few minutes, I reached the assigned altitude. The autopilot commanded nosed down, the trim wheel moved, and plane settled perfectly at the assigned altitude (just like it always has). And the yoke never moved.

Then, however, things got exciting.

As the plane leveled (still on AP), the yoke jumped out of my hand and slammed all the way forward to full nose down. A couple of seconds later, it slammed all the way backwards to full nose up. I got a couple of seconds of a stall warning horn from the accelerated stall that was induced by this abrupt motion, and then the yoke continued a periodic oscillation from SLAM! -- full nose up -- to SLAM -- full nose down. I let this repeat about a couple of times and then disengaged the AP.

After manually leveling the plane, I reengaged the AP to hold altitude. SLAM! full forward SLAM! full back. Disengage the AP. SLAM! full back -- and now I can't get the nose down. The yoke moved forward normally, but the plane wouldn't respond to the control movement. Around this same time I got the 'USB disconnect' tone from my speakers.

If anybody has any suggestions, I'm willing to try anything to get the functionality sorted out, but I'm tremendously disappointed in what was delivered to me after waiting nearly a year from the time I paid in my Kickstarter funding for this yoke.

-M.
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Unholy Disaster - Mark Hargrove - 12-24-2014 06:39 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pieces - 12-24-2014, 12:58 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Mark Hargrove - 12-24-2014, 05:01 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pieces - 12-25-2014, 12:44 AM
Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 12-24-2014, 07:50 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 12-24-2014, 10:33 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - GordonH - 12-27-2014, 05:44 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JN_ - 12-27-2014, 12:07 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 12-27-2014, 12:23 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JN_ - 12-27-2014, 02:38 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 12-27-2014, 04:06 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JN_ - 12-27-2014, 05:15 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - chksix - 12-27-2014, 06:42 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 12-27-2014, 06:50 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - ptrg - 12-28-2014, 09:17 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - chksix - 12-28-2014, 09:57 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pieces - 12-28-2014, 10:45 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 12-31-2014, 01:50 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - chksix - 12-28-2014, 06:36 PM
Unholy Disaster - Andre - 12-29-2014, 03:54 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 12-30-2014, 06:43 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Bart - 12-31-2014, 12:46 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - RMM - 01-02-2015, 08:42 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 01-03-2015, 05:11 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 01-03-2015, 09:58 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - RMM - 01-05-2015, 08:52 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 01-05-2015, 11:21 PM
Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-05-2015, 01:49 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - GordonH - 01-05-2015, 09:57 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - GordonH - 01-06-2015, 02:13 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-06-2015, 09:19 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 01-06-2015, 10:03 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - hadoken - 01-06-2015, 10:22 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-06-2015, 10:47 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 01-07-2015, 04:05 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-07-2015, 10:28 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Terrydew - 01-07-2015, 10:48 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - john MD - 01-08-2015, 12:10 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 01-07-2015, 01:49 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - iTris666 - 01-08-2015, 01:08 AM
Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-08-2015, 01:09 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - chksix - 01-08-2015, 06:00 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - ptrg - 01-08-2015, 09:50 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 01-08-2015, 10:59 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - RMM - 01-08-2015, 02:55 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - RMM - 01-10-2015, 01:17 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - chksix - 01-11-2015, 01:58 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - ptrg - 01-11-2015, 08:54 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - evanbanalian - 01-11-2015, 09:44 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Bart - 01-12-2015, 02:28 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - CubedRoot - 01-12-2015, 06:32 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-13-2015, 07:33 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Bart - 01-14-2015, 03:49 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 01-14-2015, 08:34 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Terrydew - 01-13-2015, 09:29 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-13-2015, 01:46 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - john MD - 01-13-2015, 08:06 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - GordonH - 01-17-2015, 04:29 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-17-2015, 10:29 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - john MD - 01-17-2015, 07:56 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Hornet - 01-18-2015, 07:40 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-18-2015, 08:16 AM
Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-18-2015, 01:17 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - john MD - 01-18-2015, 07:37 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - GordonH - 01-18-2015, 08:20 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Lizz - 01-18-2015, 08:38 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-19-2015, 04:45 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - john MD - 01-19-2015, 06:48 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - fabi - 01-19-2015, 03:29 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - GordonH - 01-21-2015, 02:26 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-21-2015, 01:02 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-21-2015, 01:50 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-21-2015, 03:17 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Slayer - 01-22-2015, 09:52 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Terrydew - 01-22-2015, 10:06 AM
RE: Unholy Disaster - Pat - 01-22-2015, 12:46 PM
RE: Unholy Disaster - JamesHongKong - 01-22-2015, 03:10 PM

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